19-07-2016 11:06
I set up my box today and noticed in the Freeview section that BBC 1 and 2 are missing - the channels start with ITV. Scrolling through, I found BBC 1 HD and BBC 2 HD located after the Horror channel.
Ideally I'd like to have BBC 1 and 2 at the top of the EPG. Better still I'd like my regional BBC 1 and BBC 2 HD at the top of the EPG.
I can't see my local station or the non-HD versions listed anywhere in the channels found.
This box is replacing a BT YouView box which picked up the above missing channels.
Any ideas please?
02-08-2016 23:34
03-08-2016 15:19
@Anonymous User
Welcome to the forum.
During the scanning progress, if the smart box detects several transmitters it should give you the choice at the end of which transmitter you want to use, but unfortunately several people have reported not getting the choice at the end and it seems a bit hit and miss whether this happens. If it doesn't happen there is currently no option for manual tuning. You could try repeating the scanning process several times to see if you do get the option, but if not there's not really a lot you can do. One user has fitted a filter to filter out the weaker signal so the box locks onto the stronger transmitter but again you wouldn't know if that would work for you or not until you tried it.
You could always try factory resets and the like, but may well be that, until the box is hopefully updated at some point with manual tuning options, you might find it more reliable to just connect the aerial to the TV and allow that to act as the Freeview tuner (if it is capable) and just use the box as a NOW TV box, but I appreciate that's not much of a solution.
03-08-2016 16:03
03-08-2016 16:16
@Anonymous User
I also don't get the option to choose transmitter and as a result I've had occasions when I had to keep retuning it as it strays from one to another as it feels like it. Without the option to choose transmitter or some manual tuning option we are a bit stuck as to how to force it to look at one particular transmitter all the time (luckily for me, I have the option of using Freesat and the smart box is now just used as a normal now tv box).
As you've had an installer out to check your aerial I can't see anything you can do to improve things there, so it might just be a case of bearing with it a couple of days, doing some factory resets and retunes and see how it goes (and if anyone else with the same problem has found any magic solutions and posts them!), and then if it is still playing up maybe returning it for a refund and looking at getting a dedicated Freeview HD box if the HD channels are of particular importance to you.
@schnapps you play around with the smart box a lot - any magic solutions?
03-08-2016 16:47 - edited 03-08-2016 16:51
Not really to be honest Andy, with my smart box connected from a roof aerial when i setup the box i did a automatic channel scan, where after the box completed the scan i was given the option of Wales (Wenvo) my local transmitter or England (Mendips Somerset) and i got 178 TV & Radio channels on my box.
I have done a few factory resets for testing purposes and a new automatic re scan each time and i always seem to get the option of Wales or England with around 178 channels (now gone up to 188 channels for the Olympics).
One of the trial members on the PB was getting erratic channel numbers from 37, to 77 and now currently up to 150 total channels over a three month period by doing a factory resets on the box.
The only things i can think off is maybe the direction of the terrestrial tv aerial is pointing to the different transmitter stations or if your house is close to a 4G transmitter then they can have an effect with the number of channels and picture quality (where i believe a special 4G filter will fix it which you can get for free).
09-08-2016 10:21
09-08-2016 10:34
Out of interest...
How many of you guys with 'weak picture issues' have your smart boxes connected to the internet using 'WiFi'?
Cheers
09-08-2016 11:04 - edited 09-08-2016 11:05
During the smart box trial, I reported that my box did a tuning oddity, as described below (stop reading now if not interested in the details!!) but nothing was done to resolve this.
It picked up 5 of the 6 multiplexes (groups of channels) from the correct transmitter (the one that the rooftop aerial points at) as expected. Let's call that TX1.
But it picked up the remaining 1 multiplex from a completely different transmitter (one that is in completely the opposite direction to the rooftop aerial). Let's call that TX2.
The signal on that frequency from TX2 is strong enough to be picked up here but it's not strong enough - you constantly get pixellation and no signal problems on those channels.
That's because that multiplex is broadcast from TX1 on a lower frequency than the same multiplex from TX2.
Discovered all this by using the hidden Tuner menu to check frequencies and signal strengths.
When this situation arises, the box seems to just select the first frequency that it finds for each multiplex. It should really choose the one that has the strongest signal.
I fixed it myself by introducing a filter to weaken the signal input to the smart box during tuning. But the man in the street isn't going to know what's happening nor want to fiddle doing tricks about to resolve it. 😞
19-08-2016 14:42
How do you get to the hidden/secrent tuner menu. Many thanks
09-08-2016 11:26