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Trans_Goth_Girl
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

Considering Jeremy stepped down as CEO, sky for the longest time had this ideology of we don’t want to eating to our core business (sky Q).

 

Now Comcast have appointed a new CEO themselves, I think it’s a case now of we don’t care, After all isn’t consumer choice key here, as long as we’re not paying more for essentially less.

 

I definitely think the boost membership has a lot of work needed to be done to where we get to a point where it’s created equally across all supported platforms, not just Apple TV but LG smart TVs and the Xbox One family/Xbox series S/X video game systems, due to not supporting 5.1 or 50FPS.

 

i’m just excited to see how everything will shake out in the end, only from the perspective of being tech nerd.

 

I think now (at least for the time being) from what I’ve read I want to stay out of the hardware business, I’m guessing less is more, if you can’t support the devices that you have listed properly what’s the point really?

 

At the moment what’s going to happen when the fire cube ends up on that list is another possible concern also.

 

considering how many Apple device uses there are, I’m shocked but at the same time not surprised that sky/now found a way of screwing up the Apple TV app for tvOS in the most half cocked way possible, go figure I guess?

 

ultimately at the moment I really don’t care about 4K/HDR/Atmos because let’s get 1080p with multichannel audio right first shall we?

 

I hope nobody is running before they can walk? 😜

 

just give me a whole UI overhaul as well, I’m guessing that’s subjective also? As it should be.

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nst
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

@Trans_Goth_Girl 

 

Sadly the current UI is not that old... and its Now's idea of the latest greatest thing.

 

Maybe new owners will force change here...

 

Those of us with AppleTVs know how ridiculous it is that they have prioritised a consistent UI across disparate devices and it simply doesn't work - all devices have unique remotes and established UI practises and Now's reluctance to follow the Apple UI guidelines have resulted in a poor user experience.

 

You make a point that I have made many times in here.....

 

If you cannot FULLY support ALL functionality on a device then its better to drop that device than release a half baked experience on that device.  And.. yes I include appleTV on this.  If they cannot support Boost FULLY then it shouldn't be supported at all (though I would increase that to they shouldn't support a platform at all where they cant support boost fully).

The issue AppleTV customers have is they are paying full price for a boost service that is not 100% delivered and thats not fair.

Now they no longer produce their own hardware (well, rebadged ROKU) they seem to be favouring the Amazon Firestick - this seems to be the platform of choice if you want the latest greatest functionality.  I just hope this isn't the case going forward but to be told that 5.1 takes another year to fix is so frustrating.

 

 

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Trans_Goth_Girl
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

If you’ve seen the Peacock, well it’s really nice, by nice I mean clean.

 

if now are favouring Amazon devices over Roku/now branding Roku devices, I would hypothesise that has something to do with getting prime video across the sky ecosystem (I have no inside source, just a hunch).

 

I also think it’s funny right now that the last time of checking the Humax Aura has the now app but when you click on it it says not available, I mean what’s that all about?

 

I still think the iTunes billing issue needs sorting also, it shouldn’t be relegated just to the Apple TV HD/4K app but any Apple device you’re running.

 

What can I say I’m a big fan of iTunes billing.

 

 

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nst
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

@Trans_Goth_Girl 

 

Again, something ive been saying all along in here....

 

Getting Prime access in return for Sports access is a huge deal for both companies... and it doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to realise that... at the exact same time this was a announced a brand new highly polished (for Now anyway) app appeared with no warning on the previously unsupported Firestick.

 

This app was released one week after the AppleTV one which had been in public beta for 9 months... (and the Amazon one wasn't even in beta).... This app released in a far superior and function rich state than the appleTV one.  

 

... Now no longer sell their own hardware... and all efforts seem to be on the Firestick..... but you can see why cant you!

 

Also, I firmly believe that the 5.1 missing from AppleTV is nothing to do with technical limitations and everything to do with forcing people to migrate to the Firestick app - at least for a period of 'exclusivity' - after which the seemingly simple task of enabling 5.1 on the AppleTV app will miraculously appear.

 

My guess is there is an arrangement to enable Amazon to sell more Firesticks by supplying the best app on that platform for a period of 1 year.  During which time many (like me) have been forced to use the Firestick app over the AppleTV one as I pay for boost and im not watching a movie in 2.0 thanks very much.  I will abandon the Firestick one the moment that AppleTV enables 5.1 but for the time being Amazon have gotten exactly what they wanted (and paid for I think).

 

 

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Trans_Goth_Girl
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

Firstly if you’ve got a decent AVR and speakers, why would you watch a movie in 2.0? 😜😂😜 sane people wouldn’t (like yourself).

 

ultimately this could be Amazon trying to cash in on the market, let’s be honest here what are the top two streams available? If you’re in the Apple ecosystem it’s the Apple TV 4K/HD if you’re in the Google camp it’s the Nvidia shield.

 

Unless you’re into home automation and have Alexa running, it leaves very little room or desire to purchase any form of fire TV device, even though it’s running a custom version of android anyway.

 

Android in Amazon skin so to speak.

 

I find it even more hilarious they held off on the fire cube, even though not the cheapest I would say it’s the better of the two, when compared to the fire stick 4K, if I was to compare both to the competition I would take the shield and the Apple TV any day of the week.

 

I would definitely say that the ultimate streamer however, if you consider media servers, that is, is definitely where the Nvidia shield shines especially if you want pass through for Atmos.

 

I’m still interested to see how this all shakes out in the end especially within the next year or two, I think four years total will be even more interesting, Specifically in relation to hardware and whether or not sky will migrate their core business (sky Q) with the red headed step child so to speak (Now).

 

i’m just glad great minds think alike (I think) 😜

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Osk9000
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

I cancelled my sub to NowTV about 3 months ago because of this. 

I’ve been a subscriber for several years now and just about accepted the old Ui and 2.0 sounds especially as I was able to buy a year pass for £50 for movies and entertainment

 

 In the last year I was a beta tester for the new app and things seemed to be looking up. 

Then the new app launched with a redesign. Crackdown on long term price deals, no 4K, hdr or atmos and to my shock no 5.1. 

When you consider they are asking £21 a month standard pricing which I was on after my offers ended. And I was paying extra just to get 1080p!! With no 5.1 on ATV … it’s madness 

 

i can’t actually believe you need to pay extra for HD. A boost for UHD maybe. 

NowTV are so antiquated considering the competition and twice as expensive. So it was time to jump ship. I’m only back here to see if there is any more news on 5.1. Sadly not! 

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nst
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Re: Boost - Apple TV 4k

I feel the same as you, @Osk9000  however to be fair you cannot criticise the new app for not launching without 4K and Atmos as of course this has never been on the cards.

 

As Ive mentioned before I too am a beta tester (i.e. 9 months of my life wasted on this) and I am aghast at their decision to not support 5.1.

 

Despite many protests at the time, each of which was met with a 'working on it and hope to have it soon' - they seem 6 months on to not give much of a monkeys about it.

 

Agreed, at full price Now does not represent value for money and given the offerings, content and price from the likes of Netflix it is very expensive considering measly 1080p and 5.1 are a paid extra when mostly this is included as a base level standard on other services and has been for years.

 

Now will surely have to change as customers will start to vote with their feet.  The shame of it is that their appleTV user base is artificially suppressed right now as the boost subscribers who have a decent sound system just can't use the app.

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