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robert1997
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

@Thom77

I watched it on the Premier League channel. I watched the 1st half on the Roku Stick+ and I would definitely say movement was much 'smoother' overall. The 2nd half I switched to the Smart Box where the motion issues were a little more obvious. From that I'd tentatively conclude that the issues could in some small way be down to individual devices?!?

You make a very good point re watching the game, and difference in quality, watching it on Sky One as opposed to the actual sports channels. I'd forgotten it was also on One or I'd have tested that out too, maybe next time Smiley Happy

BT Sports next, as you say, which sadly shows the difference in overall output quality between the two platforms. Might watch their evening game later.

The sound was terrible, especially early on, so much so at one point I backed out of the stream and rebooted my soundbar thinking it was a problem with my setup. It was like they were playing in a tin can Smiley LOL albeit a rather large tin can to get all those people squeezed in Smiley LOL

GaryL
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

You would hope that the HD won’t be for the extra £5 that was hinted at on the sky sports survey, now tv customers already pay more than sky satellite subscribers for sport and HD is now standard on the sports channels for no extra charge.

Thom77
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

@robert1997

Maybe just as the devices get newer, they deal a bit better with the poor picture........ as we hope, 1080p and 50fps can't come soon enough.... fingers crossed.

That sound description was perfect, like everyone was in a big metal room, Jamie Carragher sounded ill.  I even turned my stream off and back on to see if that helped, but the sound was poor all the way through.

Wolves v Everton tonight should be interesting....... two teams who weren't shy in buying new players over the summer. 

Thom77
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

@GaryL

With regards this possible HD surcharge that is coming, certainly the cheaper the better...... and if it is one surcharge to cover HD across all the various passes, the value will no doubt be better the more passes you run.  I only tend to use Entertainment, but if you're someone who runs them all a small surcharge to get HD across them all might be an easy choice to make???

Bigfoot12
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

 

Hi @robert1997,

How is your Panasonic receiving the streaming signal.

If its wifi, try any home hub setup connected into

the Panasonic Now Tv box.

Its a two minute job to setup.

1,Plug the sender into any three pin socket next to the router.

2, Plug the ethernet cable into the router, then into the Home hub

sender pluged into the three pin plug.

3 Plug the receiver Home hub into a three pin wall socket

next to your Now tv box connected to the Panasonic TV.

4 Connect the Receiver to your Now TV box with an ethernet cable.

5 Switch both home hub on.

6 In Now Tv box set connection from WiFi to ethernet.

You now have your Now TV box hard wired.

My LG has that setup and my picture is totaly stable, and

the picture quaily looks as if its a 4k stream with the LG

upscaling the HD to 4k, (Mint).

Im not sure, but the sound qualiy could be

Dolby Atoms being pass through to the LG TV speakers, and

the sound bar. ?.

Thanks BF.

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robert1997
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?


@Thom77 wrote:

@robert1997

Maybe just as the devices get newer, they deal a bit better with the poor picture........ as we hope, 1080p and 50fps can't come soon enough.... fingers crossed.

That sound description was perfect, like everyone was in a big metal room, Jamie Carragher sounded ill.  I even turned my stream off and back on to see if that helped, but the sound was poor all the way through.

Wolves v Everton tonight should be interesting....... two teams who weren't shy in buying new players over the summer. 


Have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the Wolves v Everton clash this evening. Off in a minute to watch Match of the Day. I always set it to record then chase play it so I can ffwd past the punditry Smiley LOL

robert1997
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

@Bigfoot12

I know you probably mean well but as someone who gets their tv and connected equipment calibrated I'm well aware of PLA technology. Quite a bit of my equipment is connected that way. I'm pretty certain you are mistaking 'Power Line Adapters' for a 'home hub' which of course is what BT call their routers.

Talking about home hubs (routers), I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. I always use top end 3rd party routers so as to free me from the constraints of my ISP service.

The picture on my tv is also stable and the only slight issue is with 25fps output, the same way EVERYONE has the issue with 25fps.

Remember 720p, as utilised by NowTV, is not technically HD. Granted a 4K tv does upscale the picture but that doesn't magically turn it into 4K, that's impossible for any system to achieve.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/upscaling-how-does-it-work-and-is-it-worth-it/

Upscaling (also known as upconversion) sounds like you’re getting 4K video quality from 1080p video. That’s not what it is. And it’s far from perfect. It stands to reason that there would be problems with technology that forces a picture into duplicating its pixels to create a fair estimation of a higher resolution.

Whereas it’s implied to be all about precision, upscaling can’t add more detail than is already present.

The main problem with upscaling is the possibility of visual artifacts, increasingly an issue with fast-moving videos. While some material might appear stretched, one notable trouble is the ringing artifact, which appears as a ‘ghost’ or further outline around objects. Blurring and distortion of any sort, especially, will be most noticeable the closer you are to your television or monitor.

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Bigfoot12
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

Hi All,

@robert1997, Thanks for advice on Home hubs, do you

think why my 720p picture quality looks like

a 4k steam is because I have the ( Advanced Technicolor HDR ) turned

on in my ( Picture setting ) plus the UHD TVs upscaling.

Thanks BF.

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robert1997
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?


@Bigfoot12 wrote:

Hi All,

@robert1997, Thanks for advice on Home hubs, do you

think why my 720p picture quality looks like

a 4k steam is because I have the ( Advanced Technicolor HDR ) turned

on in my ( Picture setting ) plus the UHD TVs upscaling.

Thanks BF.


Absolutely yes BUT if you were to test out a true 4K or even better HDR source you'd see just how massive the difference is from 720p input to 'real' 4K (or HDR) input.

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Flaggy69
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Re: When will you be transmitting in HD?

The black square NowTV box is identical to Roku 3 in terms of hardware. And 1080p was nothing new when that was released. It's totally capable of 1080

I think these bells and whistles, surround sound too, are kept back because the solution they want to steer you to is Sky subscription. Like the £5 extra will see many considering sky packages instead too.

From a marketing point of view, that makes sense. NowTV being a combination of gateway product into Sky, and making subscribers out of some that would never consider Sky. Win/win

Though these ommisions just mean I share times with Netflix and Amazon, and a few others (movies are what I use) while things remain like this.